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		<title>By: laurent</title>
		<link>http://liftlab.com/think/laurent/2009/12/23/do-conference-videos-still-work/comment-page-1/#comment-33475</link>
		<dc:creator>laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a Ford and you&#039;ll have wifi next year: http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/next-gen-ford-sync-adding-wifi-hotspot-capabilities-you-provide/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a Ford and you&#8217;ll have wifi next year: <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/next-gen-ford-sync-adding-wifi-hotspot-capabilities-you-provide/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/next-gen-ford-sync-adding-wifi-hotspot-capabilities-you-provide/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Remy Wilders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remy Wilders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Laurent.

I believe long videos aren&#039;t, any longer, adapted to the way people use computer based internet. &quot;In the old days&quot; when it took forever to load, you&#039;d see the video through (whilst maybe loading another).

Today you view streaming video strait from click one. So flipping to something else after a few seconds is just natural (just like on TV). There are so many apples to pick and the reach is ever easier.

I have the impression that mobile devices may be a good bet as to where &quot;long conference videos&quot; will be ever more viewed (or at least listened to whilst driving your car, in the sub or gardening...). 

For a start you often have your mobile phone when waiting for somthing, somebody, to get somewhere or simply in a room. So you actually have time (once you&#039;re done browsing your mails, twitter etc) you are ready to fill in.

Secondly, the loading of a video is still slow enough to want to &quot;reap from the effort&quot;. Most important the video takes the whole screen so you&#039;re less tempted to look at something else... Well sort of :). Anyway if you are driving you can&#039;t really switch and a nice 20 minute talk is appreciated.

I have found the Lift iPhone app and its good. The problem, for the time being is that a video cannot be downloaded without a Wifi connection... (would you believe it I don&#039;t even have one in my car...). That has to do with the iPhone of course (not the app).

All that to say that: yes there is nearly too much good info out there... given the available time we have to view it. But there are new available time spaces opening up with the mobile devices and, as soon as the loading issues are solved, I believe the audience will be back.

You probably already know this but it is interesting to note that the most podcasted french program is &quot;2000 ans d&#039;histoire&quot; (translates: 2000 years of history) and it lasts 30 minutes every day from monday to friday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Laurent.</p>
<p>I believe long videos aren&#8217;t, any longer, adapted to the way people use computer based internet. &#8220;In the old days&#8221; when it took forever to load, you&#8217;d see the video through (whilst maybe loading another).</p>
<p>Today you view streaming video strait from click one. So flipping to something else after a few seconds is just natural (just like on TV). There are so many apples to pick and the reach is ever easier.</p>
<p>I have the impression that mobile devices may be a good bet as to where &#8220;long conference videos&#8221; will be ever more viewed (or at least listened to whilst driving your car, in the sub or gardening&#8230;). </p>
<p>For a start you often have your mobile phone when waiting for somthing, somebody, to get somewhere or simply in a room. So you actually have time (once you&#8217;re done browsing your mails, twitter etc) you are ready to fill in.</p>
<p>Secondly, the loading of a video is still slow enough to want to &#8220;reap from the effort&#8221;. Most important the video takes the whole screen so you&#8217;re less tempted to look at something else&#8230; Well sort of :). Anyway if you are driving you can&#8217;t really switch and a nice 20 minute talk is appreciated.</p>
<p>I have found the Lift iPhone app and its good. The problem, for the time being is that a video cannot be downloaded without a Wifi connection&#8230; (would you believe it I don&#8217;t even have one in my car&#8230;). That has to do with the iPhone of course (not the app).</p>
<p>All that to say that: yes there is nearly too much good info out there&#8230; given the available time we have to view it. But there are new available time spaces opening up with the mobile devices and, as soon as the loading issues are solved, I believe the audience will be back.</p>
<p>You probably already know this but it is interesting to note that the most podcasted french program is &#8220;2000 ans d&#8217;histoire&#8221; (translates: 2000 years of history) and it lasts 30 minutes every day from monday to friday.</p>
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		<title>By: laurent</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick: most of the costs can hardly be taken down. Team of 10 people working for 3 days, heavy duty cameras and sound system, lighting (around 20k...), stage decoration, post production, encoding, meta-data addition, spreading, promotion, etc... The last part of the process could certainly be outsourced to the community - and maybe to the speakers themselves? But I&#039;m afraid that would create quite a few management challenges: making sure 40 people coordinate might be more work than doing it ourselves.
But there is certainly something that can be done there, and we&#039;ll look out for people willing to help us with the videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick: most of the costs can hardly be taken down. Team of 10 people working for 3 days, heavy duty cameras and sound system, lighting (around 20k&#8230;), stage decoration, post production, encoding, meta-data addition, spreading, promotion, etc&#8230; The last part of the process could certainly be outsourced to the community &#8211; and maybe to the speakers themselves? But I&#8217;m afraid that would create quite a few management challenges: making sure 40 people coordinate might be more work than doing it ourselves.<br />
But there is certainly something that can be done there, and we&#8217;ll look out for people willing to help us with the videos.</p>
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		<title>By: clay ball</title>
		<link>http://liftlab.com/think/laurent/2009/12/23/do-conference-videos-still-work/comment-page-1/#comment-33335</link>
		<dc:creator>clay ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for above link--that is great!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for above link&#8211;that is great!  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laurent,

Thanks for posing the question. Lets look at this the other way around. How about finding a cheaper way to produce the videos in the first place? The 30+ videos we&#039;re producing of the International Conference on Crisis Mapping (ICCM) cost us less than $1,000 in total (which includes video animation, soundtrack, editing, etc.):

http://www.crisismappers.net/video

Maybe try leveraging the LIFT community (and beyond) to have folks volunteer their time and expertise? I&#039;m sure there are budding film students out there who would love to be part of the magic and LIFT could be their first break, so you&#039;d be doing good that way too. That&#039;s what Jen and I did with ICCM.

In any case, I agree with the above comments, the videos are integral to spreading the word. On streaming, I for one don&#039;t always have the time to watch an event live online. So putting the videos online a few days after the conference and rolling them out over time allows folks the freedom to watch when we want. This also allows us to edit the videos, make them shorter, etc. Providing a &quot;table of contents&quot; per video may be another way to go so folks can just jump to specific points of interest. Finding other creative ways to drive traffic to the videos is also worth considering. So what if it&#039;s not as &quot;automatic&quot; as before.

I totally agree that we should consolidate view counts across platforms. The vote counts are important user-generated content and sign-posts. I&#039;m no software developer but imagine it can&#039;t be too hard to write a few scripts that pull in counts from other websites and aggregates them on the LIFT (or TED) website. Asking YouTube to do the same might be trickier. But they don&#039;t have to add that the majority of view counts for a certain video comes from Vimeo, for example. They could just have one figure that denotes number of times a video has been viewed on dozens of platforms across the web. This number may actually compel more users to watch the videos right there/then on YouTube, which may be of appeal to the company.  

Thanks again for posing the question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laurent,</p>
<p>Thanks for posing the question. Lets look at this the other way around. How about finding a cheaper way to produce the videos in the first place? The 30+ videos we&#8217;re producing of the International Conference on Crisis Mapping (ICCM) cost us less than $1,000 in total (which includes video animation, soundtrack, editing, etc.):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crisismappers.net/video" rel="nofollow">http://www.crisismappers.net/video</a></p>
<p>Maybe try leveraging the LIFT community (and beyond) to have folks volunteer their time and expertise? I&#8217;m sure there are budding film students out there who would love to be part of the magic and LIFT could be their first break, so you&#8217;d be doing good that way too. That&#8217;s what Jen and I did with ICCM.</p>
<p>In any case, I agree with the above comments, the videos are integral to spreading the word. On streaming, I for one don&#8217;t always have the time to watch an event live online. So putting the videos online a few days after the conference and rolling them out over time allows folks the freedom to watch when we want. This also allows us to edit the videos, make them shorter, etc. Providing a &#8220;table of contents&#8221; per video may be another way to go so folks can just jump to specific points of interest. Finding other creative ways to drive traffic to the videos is also worth considering. So what if it&#8217;s not as &#8220;automatic&#8221; as before.</p>
<p>I totally agree that we should consolidate view counts across platforms. The vote counts are important user-generated content and sign-posts. I&#8217;m no software developer but imagine it can&#8217;t be too hard to write a few scripts that pull in counts from other websites and aggregates them on the LIFT (or TED) website. Asking YouTube to do the same might be trickier. But they don&#8217;t have to add that the majority of view counts for a certain video comes from Vimeo, for example. They could just have one figure that denotes number of times a video has been viewed on dozens of platforms across the web. This number may actually compel more users to watch the videos right there/then on YouTube, which may be of appeal to the company.  </p>
<p>Thanks again for posing the question!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TED and lift talks became an essential part of my morning routine. The lenght (20-40 mins) is just fine to get insights and inspiration. I forward and tweet about the talks a lot, so live coverage is not that important imho, I really need VOD. Keep up the good work (and videos!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TED and lift talks became an essential part of my morning routine. The lenght (20-40 mins) is just fine to get insights and inspiration. I forward and tweet about the talks a lot, so live coverage is not that important imho, I really need VOD. Keep up the good work (and videos!).</p>
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		<title>By: laurent</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TED is the exception confirming the rule - even more than I thought (congrats :) - and it strengthens one of the point I was raising: that views are spread on different platforms which means a lot of intelligence escapes. It&#039;s a shame we can&#039;t consolidate the numbers across platform, with YouTube not benefiting from the social intelligence of TED.com where millions of people have voted with their eyes for a certain talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TED is the exception confirming the rule &#8211; even more than I thought (congrats :) &#8211; and it strengthens one of the point I was raising: that views are spread on different platforms which means a lot of intelligence escapes. It&#8217;s a shame we can&#8217;t consolidate the numbers across platform, with YouTube not benefiting from the social intelligence of TED.com where millions of people have voted with their eyes for a certain talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you&#039;re getting your TED numbers from youtube.  But by far the majority of our views are on http://ted.com   Almost all the talks we post end up getting more than 100k views. Pranav Mistry, who was only posted a month ago, is already through 2 million.   Overall, more than 400k TED talks are being viewed every day. This is more than double the number of a year ago.   We&#039;re in awe that the web audience is willing to sit through 18 minutes... and then forward the link. This wasn&#039;t expected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you&#8217;re getting your TED numbers from youtube.  But by far the majority of our views are on <a href="http://ted.com" rel="nofollow">http://ted.com</a>   Almost all the talks we post end up getting more than 100k views. Pranav Mistry, who was only posted a month ago, is already through 2 million.   Overall, more than 400k TED talks are being viewed every day. This is more than double the number of a year ago.   We&#8217;re in awe that the web audience is willing to sit through 18 minutes&#8230; and then forward the link. This wasn&#8217;t expected!</p>
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		<title>By: laurent</title>
		<link>http://liftlab.com/think/laurent/2009/12/23/do-conference-videos-still-work/comment-page-1/#comment-33192</link>
		<dc:creator>laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re already working to be carbon neutral: http://liftconference.com/compensating-lift09</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re already working to be carbon neutral: <a href="http://liftconference.com/compensating-lift09" rel="nofollow">http://liftconference.com/compensating-lift09</a></p>
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		<title>By: clay ball</title>
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		<dc:creator>clay ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one idea would be to do less/shorter videos &amp; use some funds to make the conference carbon neutral? maybe it already is!  not sure how expensive that would be.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one idea would be to do less/shorter videos &amp; use some funds to make the conference carbon neutral? maybe it already is!  not sure how expensive that would be.  :)</p>
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