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	<title>Comments on: The problem with European entrepreneurship? Our lack of cruelty!</title>
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		<title>By: Revue de presse &#124; Simple Entrepreneur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revue de presse &#124; Simple Entrepreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The problem with European entrepreneurship? Our lack of cruelty! Une réflexion intéressante vis-à-vis du rôle du mentor dans des programmes pour startups comme Seedcamp. Quelle attitude doit-il adopter lorsque le projet d&#8217;un entrepreneur semble avoir peu de chance de réussir ? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The problem with European entrepreneurship? Our lack of cruelty! Une réflexion intéressante vis-à-vis du rôle du mentor dans des programmes pour startups comme Seedcamp. Quelle attitude doit-il adopter lorsque le projet d&#8217;un entrepreneur semble avoir peu de chance de réussir ? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sandbox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HELPING OR HURTING?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandbox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HELPING OR HURTING?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Haug, founder of the great LIFT conference in Geneva, recently analyzed the European startup scene on his blog and came to one conclusion: There is not enough cruelty. Because we Europeans are too nice and not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Haug, founder of the great LIFT conference in Geneva, recently analyzed the European startup scene on his blog and came to one conclusion: There is not enough cruelty. Because we Europeans are too nice and not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: raphael</title>
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		<dc:creator>raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an swiss perspective, I totally agree that it&#039;s quite hard to find feedback. Hopefully there are friends and collegues that can help us like this, with constructive feedback: http://www.hyperweek.com/article/view/22/

Bad feedback is from my &quot;entrepreneur-side&quot; point of view  this type: &quot;it&#039;s too close from Ning, so it&#039;s useless.&quot; (note: the dot is just after useless)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an swiss perspective, I totally agree that it&#8217;s quite hard to find feedback. Hopefully there are friends and collegues that can help us like this, with constructive feedback: <a href="http://www.hyperweek.com/article/view/22/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hyperweek.com/article/view/22/</a></p>
<p>Bad feedback is from my &#8220;entrepreneur-side&#8221; point of view  this type: &#8220;it&#8217;s too close from Ning, so it&#8217;s useless.&#8221; (note: the dot is just after useless)</p>
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		<title>By: laurent</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a tough questions. When assessing Switzerland I always say &quot;they&#039;ve done the hardest part. People are educated, the infrastructure is amazing, the system works. All they have to do is change their perception of risk, their mentalities&quot;. And what seems to be the easiest to change (in theory changing the way you think is easier than digging a tunnel through the Alps ;) is in fact the hardest.

We don&#039;t need more money or infrastructure, or simpler administrative processes. We probably need a change of mentality. And often it seems that&#039;s the hardest thing to change in society...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a tough questions. When assessing Switzerland I always say &#8220;they&#8217;ve done the hardest part. People are educated, the infrastructure is amazing, the system works. All they have to do is change their perception of risk, their mentalities&#8221;. And what seems to be the easiest to change (in theory changing the way you think is easier than digging a tunnel through the Alps ;) is in fact the hardest.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need more money or infrastructure, or simpler administrative processes. We probably need a change of mentality. And often it seems that&#8217;s the hardest thing to change in society&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant Agarwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prashant Agarwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of you make really good points.  I agree that it&#039;s best to be honest and upfront with your feedback but make sure to deliver the feedback in the most constructive way possible so that the brave entrepreneurs direct their energies in the right direction. At the same time feedback only goes so far. Sometimes you have to fail first before you can succeed. 

That gets to the larger problem which Laurent articulates very well.  I just relocated to Helsinki from London and I&#039;m getting to know the startup community here. Their issues are the same as the folks in London. People seem to be caught in a vicious circle between culture and ecosystem. So when a team has drive and an idea they start to look to the US for a chance at success.

Events like Seedcamp are helping. But is there more we can do? To me it seems the low hanging fruit is the stigma of failure. How do remove this stigma? Can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of you make really good points.  I agree that it&#8217;s best to be honest and upfront with your feedback but make sure to deliver the feedback in the most constructive way possible so that the brave entrepreneurs direct their energies in the right direction. At the same time feedback only goes so far. Sometimes you have to fail first before you can succeed. </p>
<p>That gets to the larger problem which Laurent articulates very well.  I just relocated to Helsinki from London and I&#8217;m getting to know the startup community here. Their issues are the same as the folks in London. People seem to be caught in a vicious circle between culture and ecosystem. So when a team has drive and an idea they start to look to the US for a chance at success.</p>
<p>Events like Seedcamp are helping. But is there more we can do? To me it seems the low hanging fruit is the stigma of failure. How do remove this stigma? Can you?</p>
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		<title>By: laurent</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree: there is no truth in business (other than customers fighting to buy or ignoring your product). My point is that we seem to struggle more with the &quot;any advice should be honest and direct&quot; part, as it&#039;s somehow against our culture and, well, interests? (in the case of entrepreneurship promotion agencies)

Your comments are a needed reminder to anyone who has to assess a project: be humble, approach this exercise as if you&#039;re the one who could be wrong. But sometimes - and you probably know what project triggered this thought right? - it&#039;s just too obvious, and helping is trying to re-route an entrepreneur to another career or project.

I&#039;ll quote you from now on: &quot;I don’t see this succeeding because of X, Y, and Z. If you really believe in the idea prove me wrong&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree: there is no truth in business (other than customers fighting to buy or ignoring your product). My point is that we seem to struggle more with the &#8220;any advice should be honest and direct&#8221; part, as it&#8217;s somehow against our culture and, well, interests? (in the case of entrepreneurship promotion agencies)</p>
<p>Your comments are a needed reminder to anyone who has to assess a project: be humble, approach this exercise as if you&#8217;re the one who could be wrong. But sometimes &#8211; and you probably know what project triggered this thought right? &#8211; it&#8217;s just too obvious, and helping is trying to re-route an entrepreneur to another career or project.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll quote you from now on: &#8220;I don’t see this succeeding because of X, Y, and Z. If you really believe in the idea prove me wrong&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Gillespie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Gillespie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a number of very important points. But I wanted to comment on one in particular, namely &quot;are we really helping an entrepreneur by encouraging him to pursue a project that has a big chance to fail? Probably not.&quot; 

Are there simply &quot;bad&quot; ideas out there? Absolutely. Will they stop simply because someone tells them &quot;it won’t work&quot;? No (and if they do they’re in the wrong business). Should they stop? Probably not. More often than not the market (be it money, talent, users, revenue etc.) is the only one who can effectively determine if the idea doesn’t work (and effectively deliver the message) . So as an entrepreneur if you believe in your idea, you are compelled to get it out there and see if your belief is founded. Advisors are not judge and jury (but good ones can help by identifying some potential pitfalls early on). As a result I don’t worry about negative feedback discouraging a true entrepreneur.

That being said, giving honest but difficult feedback is never easy. Too soft and you risk having your message misunderstood. To hard and the other party writes off your views and you become the arrogant know-it-all. 

When confronted with a project I’m doubtful of, I think it is important to say &quot;I don’t see this succeeding because of X, Y, and Z&quot;, but I also think it important to say &quot;if you really believe in the idea, prove me wrong&quot;. This to me is very different than saying &quot;it won’t work&quot;. This acknowledges the fact that there is as much (if not more) chance that I’m wrong as there is of the idea being crap. I may not understand the target market, or more likely I’m too dense to get the idea. And then there is the difficulty of predicting success. The reality is that it is very very hard it is to predict success in part because we fool ourselves with compelling &quot;explanations&quot; of the reason for the success after the fact (e.g. Black Swan events). If you are right 2 or 3 out of 10 times you are doing very well. Any advice should be honest and direct but tempered with the fact that in this business &quot;nobody knows nothing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a number of very important points. But I wanted to comment on one in particular, namely &#8220;are we really helping an entrepreneur by encouraging him to pursue a project that has a big chance to fail? Probably not.&#8221; </p>
<p>Are there simply &#8220;bad&#8221; ideas out there? Absolutely. Will they stop simply because someone tells them &#8220;it won’t work&#8221;? No (and if they do they’re in the wrong business). Should they stop? Probably not. More often than not the market (be it money, talent, users, revenue etc.) is the only one who can effectively determine if the idea doesn’t work (and effectively deliver the message) . So as an entrepreneur if you believe in your idea, you are compelled to get it out there and see if your belief is founded. Advisors are not judge and jury (but good ones can help by identifying some potential pitfalls early on). As a result I don’t worry about negative feedback discouraging a true entrepreneur.</p>
<p>That being said, giving honest but difficult feedback is never easy. Too soft and you risk having your message misunderstood. To hard and the other party writes off your views and you become the arrogant know-it-all. </p>
<p>When confronted with a project I’m doubtful of, I think it is important to say &#8220;I don’t see this succeeding because of X, Y, and Z&#8221;, but I also think it important to say &#8220;if you really believe in the idea, prove me wrong&#8221;. This to me is very different than saying &#8220;it won’t work&#8221;. This acknowledges the fact that there is as much (if not more) chance that I’m wrong as there is of the idea being crap. I may not understand the target market, or more likely I’m too dense to get the idea. And then there is the difficulty of predicting success. The reality is that it is very very hard it is to predict success in part because we fool ourselves with compelling &#8220;explanations&#8221; of the reason for the success after the fact (e.g. Black Swan events). If you are right 2 or 3 out of 10 times you are doing very well. Any advice should be honest and direct but tempered with the fact that in this business &#8220;nobody knows nothing&#8221;.</p>
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