Conversation is knowledge (David Weinberger)

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This guy is really crazy, the extreme american presenter constantly switching between 10 and 130 decibels. Speaks so fast I barely got half of his one liners (doc got the others luckily). He’s talking about knowledge and comes from some probably very prestigious american university. He lives here.

  • What were the effects of the Internet on knowledge? Many many of course, chaos, dissemination, disinformation, universal access, etc etc…

  • He started on taxonomy: principals of organization mirror the physical world, and therefore the physical world limitations. Something can only be at one place at the time. But why do we have to proceed this way for knowledge?
    Does that mean that if two persons have different view on something, one is always right and the other always wrong? It’s how we proceed these days, and that is why we have gatekeepers that are in fact judges, they decide what is right and what is wrong.

  • what are the differences between the online and offline world then?

    Online Offline
    leaf can be on many branches leaf can only belong to one branch
    messiness has a value messiness is a threat
    nobody owns the order of information somebody orders information and you better be this guy or cope with it
    metadata comes from users metadata is usually not entered
    if entered it’s centralized

  • The traditional media are david’s favorite punching ball. So here we go: – traditional medias are an echo chamber. NYT only links to itself (except for ads of course…) – traditional media’s is more and more like a show. Btw the best journalist (John Steward from the daily show) is a comedian. – blogs are open, generous (“bloggers link, so they basically tell you to please don’t stop here too long and go away please”)

  • Some new things are happening: – multiple subjectivities are competing on the web – the content metaphor is wrong. Fixed content is not knowledge anymore. Knowledge comes from the interactions => knowledge is becoming the conversation, not the result of it. – we face semantic segmentation (tags are the best example) – there is no difference between data and meta data. Data can change status: a quote of a book is data but becomes meta data when someone finds the book via this quote in google. – knowledge does not have to be right or wrong anymore, it can be just good enough for somebody at some point.
    This happens because online people have to co-exist. Very interesting thinking here: in the real world, someone HAS to win the conversation. So people tend to become super rational and the conversation narrows and loses its usefulness. Online there can be no end so better prepare to coexist with all the freaks out there.

  • The bottom line: we’re completely re-meaning our world at the moment, it’s a great time to be alive.

    Great presentation, really funny guy. I just wish we could have had a live example of co-existence between david and christian who earlier in the day introduced the super-data (“beyond meta-data©”) concept.

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